Arctic Role
Interview by Laura Lee Davies
This article is from the August 11-18 1994 issue of TimeOut.
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ARCTIC ROLE
Former lead Sugarcube Björk left frozen Iceland for the
warmth of London's Little Venice, and then produced the
hottest solo album of the year. Now, of course, she has a
cold. Laura Lee Davies tries to explain the secrets of her
success. Photographs by Lorenzo Agius.
Björk has flu. It wouldn't matter if she
wasn't in the middle of a photo-shoot,
hardly able to leave the box of tissues
alone, and if she didn't have to be on a
plane to New York this afternoon to 'do' Roll-
ing Stone. But when your first major solo al-
bum ('Debut') unexpectedly goes top three in
the charts, you don't have time for clogged
sinuses and runny noses. Still, on the coldest
day of the summer, she turns up at the studios
in a long, shiny evening dress and an extreme-
ly fluffy bolero, game for anything.
For those who never thought Sugarcubes
were anything more than something sweet
you gave up for Lent, and those who lost touch
with the Icelandic indie-pop band when the
promise of their first few enchanting singles
got lost in three on the whole rather disap-
pointing rock albums, the appearance of
Björk's little face in not just the music press
but Vogue as well, and her stunning new
dance-pop sound on television and even Radio
4's 'Woman's Hour', might need some explain-
ing. It comes as a bit of a shock to Björk
herself.
'I'm very surprised by the success of the
album,' she manages to say between the
sneezes and sniffles. 'I thought this album was
kind of withdrawn, sort of backwards a bit'
She had rather expected her own individual
project (her first solo album outside Iceland) to
get even less of the red-carpet treatment than
the Sugarcubes' minor-league offerings had.
Instead, acclaim has been almost unani-
mous. Like Sade's first album, and kd lang's
latest, 'Debut' is the kind of record that will
eventually find itself in almost everyone's liv-
ing room. It's a magical work of superb musi-
cianship and inspired lyricism. It's going to be
one of those you-must-give-me-the-recipe al-
bums - the kind of tip you pick up round at
someone else's house, rather than the hype
you're force-fed from poster campaigns. Natu-
rally enough, Björk is fiercely proud of 'Debut',
but has mixed feelings about its runaway suc-
cess. She dismisses it simply as something she
had to do before she died ('kind of thing').
'It was now or never. I owed people things,'
she continues in her trilling Arctic tones, after
another cracking blow on her tissue. 'I led a
very happy life in Iceland. I was a housewife,
working casual jobs, went on tour once in a
while with the Sugarcubes (which was a bit of
a joke, really, because we didn't really take
ourselves seriously). I could've quite happily
lived like that forever after. And after a hard
day's work, you kinda sit down, have a glass
of red wine, put your favourite tape on, read a
brilliant book or see a brilliant film that saves
your life, y'know? And all those people who've
gone out of their way to make those things-
like the perfect cheese, or the comfortable chair
- you just sit there and enjoy it all. And I
think it's not fair. You kind of owe it to the
world to try once and do what you're best at,
whether it's shoe-making, cookie-baking, elec-
tricity, or singing.'
So the 27-year-old singer snapped out of her
Icelandic way of life, moved to London with
her seven-year-old son Sindri and got down to
making 'Debut'. A month after the album's
release, with the second single and a support
slot to U2 imminent, the accolades are still
coming. 'Of course I'm very honoured, espe-
cially because it was my own little album of
just the things I like. But sometimes you so
badly want something else and you need to get
that first. Say it's a number, like 5.7, and you're
at 1.2, then suddenly you get 9.8 and you
wanna get that 5.7. Everyone thinks you're
really ungrateful, 'cos you got 9.8 and you
should be very happy, but it's a bit tricky.'
Björk has a very clear, level-headed way of
looking at things, even if her point of view is
90 degrees off centre from the mainstream.
The product of a hippy upbringing in rural
Iceland; she puts her eclectic taste in music,
film and books down to a privileged position
passing between parents, grandparents and
school, where everyone believed their ideas
were most definitely the right ones, 'and every-
one else were idiots'.
Even at home people used to think Björk
looked 'a bit foreign'; in England her accent,
and her features, set her apart again, but it's
something she's used to. She might have given
up using her surname (Guðmundsdóttir) be-
cause it saves a lot of time and trouble correct-
ing people, but her patience with those who
have tagged her (however affectionately) an
Icelandic pixie is saintly. It's fair enough that a
childhood living in purple-painted apartments
might make great copy, but there has been a dis-
tinct hint of patronisation - 'good for a
foreign person' - about the rave reviews.
'I think that's more a British than an Ameri-
can thing. Americans tend to like things that
are not what they see every day, they're even a
bit addicted to it - their Minnie Mouses, Don-
ald Ducks, "Star Wars". But the British are
more conservative. They've also got this Impe-
rialist way of thinking. It's just very hard to
explain to a British person, I've got a British
boyfriend and he kind of almost doesn't get it
when I explain. It's like sexism, it's so deep
that you don't realise it, and the biggest sex-
ists, they are the ones who think they're not.
It's the same with British people. They're so
sure that they're much better, they don't even
think about it. They tend to treat other people
like rarities, like something you should keep
in a box and put in a museum. They don't deal
with them as equals with feelings. You can see
that a lot in their films, how they portray Indi-
ans and Chinese people. It's kind of like some-
thing pretty to look at and then throw away.
An object, like a rhino's skull from Africa.
That manifests itself in the rock business as
well, you know. They take someone like Ofra
Haza... I guess I've been caught up in that
as well.'
Björk does, however, feel a responsibility to
Iceland, in the light of this unanticipated ap-
reciation. The British
success of her album is the biggest news back
home since an Icelandic girl won several med-
als at the disabled Olympics many years ago.
'It's a bit like Wales. If they won a gold medal
in the Olympics, everybody would go drunk
for a month.'
Still, Björk was rather hoping this piece of
her history would be the kind of artefact some-
one might find at the back of a second-hand
record shop in ten years' time, take home, and.
be pleasantly surprised by. As it turns out,
she's made the kind of sophisticated pop, soul,
jazz and dance collaboration that someone like
Lisa Stansfield would probably give her broad
Rochdale accent for. Björk shuffles on the sofa,
embarrassed, and snuffles into her disintegrat-
ing hanky.
'I've always been very anti-style. Music has
got nothing to do with style, it's a question of
sincerity. So I wanted to make it irrelevant
what style was used. It's just like a jumper and
a pair of trousers. When you meet a person,
you try to find out what the person is about.
What she's wearing doesn't matter. The songs
were what mattered, and they could have any-
thing they wanted. It didn't matter if they
needed a 20-piece brass orchestra from Bom-
bay, or a trombone player from Kent. Journal-
ists see all these different styles as a statement,
but why I was doing it was to make that invisi-
ble, to make the songs more visible.'
Björk might be somewhat bemused by the
faith her record company (One Little Iildian)
has put in her voice, and the attention being
paid to her record, but at least she now has the
best producers and musicians at her disposal.
She worked closely on the album with Nellee
Hooper (who was heavily involved in creating
the highly influential Soul II Soul sound), long-
time co-conspirator Graham Massey of 808
State, and a host of top instrumentalists like
Talvin Singh, and vocalist Jhelisa Anderson
(oft associated with The Shamen). Mick
Hucknall has recorded a remix of her new sin-
gle, the enchanting ballad `Venus As A Boy',
and Annie Lennox video director Sophie
Mueller has produced the promo for it. It's the
one perk of the job that makes the promotional
hassle and bouts of illness worthwhile. Her
latest treat is the impressive band line-up she's
rehearsing to tour with. 'I've got seven people,
and each one is like a treasure on its own.'
She might look 12 years old (in fact, she'd
already recorded her first album by that
time), but her wide knowledge of jazz and
blues, and her involvement with the current
club scene are the reasons her album is so
good; it's not some cobbled-together record
company gimmick to relaunch her voice.
'There are a lot of really good things going
on in England. Especially the generation of 18-
to 23-year-olds. They're very enthusiastic,
very positive - musically, and attitude-wise
as well. It's not muso.' She blows her nose and
from somewhere between her nostrils and the
last scrap of dry tissue, it sounds like some-
one's grinding some very hard nuts. `Before
me were the Woodstock generation. Their
roots were in rhythm and blues. My generation
have our roots in jazz. Not that we're actually
playing jazz, but it's just kind of Lego - build-
ing blocks we get to make things out of. Like,
chord-wise, musically, that's definitely where I
come from. There are a lot of people of my
generation making jazzy-house, jazzy-punk,
jazzy-techno, whatever. A lot of these jazzy,
funky sort of people are playing in London,
like, really live. A lot of people who were play-
ing when I was brought up were misunder-
standing jazz, in an academic way. They just
thought jazz was like a formula, which is rub-
bish. Young people now are playing jazz when
they don't even know a note, 'cos they like the
sounds, 'cos it's in their blood.'
Björk doesn't go clubbing every night, but
she keeps in touch with the scene. She puts it
down to her never-ending search for the per-
fect song to save her day. 'I don't really give a
fuck where that song comes from. But I don't
think the DJs are taking as many risks, they're
playing safe 'cos there's so much competition.
Nowadays you have to wait till seven o'clock
in the morning, when the DJs stop playing for
other people, and start playing for themselves.
98 per cent of music is crap, but you have to
try 98 times, so the ninety-ninth time it works.'
Three years ago she recorded an album of
jazz standards back home, and put down the
Jimmy Van Heusen classic, `Like Someone In
Love' - in her own soaring style - for this
album. Although her voice always did seem
wasted on indie music - no matter how out-
landish the Sugarcubes' version of that was -
no one could've expected the classic sound she
has produced for this album. Its best songs -
the new single, and the haunting 'Come To Me'
- are the most recently written, which bodes
well for a healthy future.
In the meantime, Björk is settling into her
Little Venice home with son and boyfriend.
She decided to move to London when her son
started school in Iceland last autumn. Björk
was used to being able to take her son with her
(he'd been on tour with the Sugarcubes since
he was one), and suddenly the separation
whenever she had to go away on business was
too much. She decided to make a home in a
place where she could work and he could go to
school. 'Kids are so excellent,' she laughs. 'He
has been the bravest of it all, and he's right
into it. His English is better than mine!
'I haven't really got into it yet. I moved here
in January and I've just been so busy since. I'll
probably wake up in a year's time. Obviously I
know the luxuries - coming from a small
village in such an isolated country, where it
takes you a month to earn an aeroplane ticket
away - of being able to see whatever film you
want, eat every food, buy any book or record.
But especially in my job, I can find almost any
musicians in the world, 'cos it's such a meeting
point. That's what I enjoy more than the fact
that it's British, or English. I still haven't really
gotten into that. I think it's because the culture
is just so different from my character - it's
conservative, traditional, all these cliches. I'm
kind of the opposite: I like things that are
spontaneous, unplanned, raw, risky, instinc-
tive, not brainy.' She smiles. 'That sounds
more like Venezuela, doesn't it?'
'Debut' is out on One Little Indian Records.
'Venus As A Boy' is out Aug 23. She plays the
Forum on Aug 19, and supports U2 at Wem-
bley Stadium, Aug 21.
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