Ansikte mot Ansikte (Sw: Face to Face)

Interview by Lars Aldman

Transcribed by Matts Henning


Here is a transcription of a TV-interview I have written. The interview was done by Lars Aldman who also had a music-program (called "Intensiven") appearing as a part of the youth program "PM", winter '93-'94. The broadcast date was Dec. 1th 1993 on Swedish TV1 and it had a running time of 29 min.

NOTE: This document is not an exact transcription and can contain faults because of the difficulty in sometimes hearing what they said.

All spelling errors (if there is any) are probably done by me. The grammar errors that might be in the text is deliberatly left uncorrected by me to preserve the interview as exact as possible. Anything in [] is my comments. [CLIP] is placed in the text to point out where a cut is done in the interview. The words in ## are words I'm not really sure if they are the right ones. I hope that you can follow the text, even without seeing the body language and hear how the words are said. This transcription is written without permission.



B: I've got everything in my life I want these days.

   I've been very very lucky.



[Intro with 'Venus As A Boy' and with stills of Björk. The interview

 is done in a cafe nearby her home in London. Björk is having a glass

 of wine and is wearing an orange long-haired jacket, which she later

 takes off to reveal a red T-shirt.]



L: I must say I'm really sorry we couldn't do this interview

   in some Scandinavian language because, you know, it's

   crazy, here we're sitting from Scandinavian countries

   and we don't understand eachothers languages. It's a

   little bit weird, isn't it?



B: Ye, I guess I must say I'm guilty. Icelandic people

   have got a bit of a attitude towards Scandinavian

   languages because we were a Danish colony for many

   hundred years so...it's a bit sort of...we're to proud

   to speak.



L: Ye. You learn Danish in school, don't you?



B: Ye we do, but everybody get really good in talking

   horrible Danish, it's...it's a bit of a pride thing

   really, it's kind of hard to explain, it's...In Iceland

   the vocabulury to say someone is like evil or wicked,

   like a bitch or something, you got..."he's Danish".

   And...it's just what happens when...because we just

   got independent 1944 and... I mean, I was obviously

   not born then...but it's gonna slowly, sort of like,

   take's, you know, several generations to forget things

   like that.



[CLIP]



L: How does it feel to do your 'debut' when you're 27

   years and you actually made your first solo album 16

   years ago.



B: Well, I desided to call it "Debut" just to put importance

   on the fact it is the first time it's my music. I did

   a record when I was 11 but...it was just one song written

   by me, and all the arrangements and... Well I picked

   the song myselfs and had something to say but, mostly

   it was produced and arranged by other people, sort of

   grownups and...so I wouldn't really consider that my

   album, not really. Eventhough I sang on it because...

   What's could always truly be my ambition and kind of

   where my heart is, is making music and kind of like...

   sort of...sounds, noices and surroundings that I find

   exiting and intrests me. While being a singer is mostly

   like...bit of a tool. To be able to do that and...

   [Björk is interrupted by Lars' next question]



L: But you started out playing the drums, didn't you?



B: Ye. And I've arranged lot of things and co-produced

   and stuff like that and...that's why I kind of call

   my album "Debut" this one, because this is the first

   time that you hear my noices and my sounds and my flavors.



[Birthday, Sugarcubes] From the beginning to the end of

                       the second chorus.



B: My mom and ten of her friends started a bit of a comune

   when I was about three. And they where playing music...

   24 hours [a day]. There were always be someone awake

   who had a record on and...that's kind of...where I come

   from and...



L: A real hippie-life.



B: Ye, but I was very lucky because then there was... My

   grandparents which I stayed a lot with because my parents

   were busy a lot of the time, they listen to jazz. And

   then I was sent to music-school when I was five, and

   them trying to convince me for ten years that modern

   music wasn't worth anything and, noone was gonna outdo

   Beethoven and stuff like that, and playing all this

   music that have nothing to do with dayly life, it's

   all based on history and it's was like dead. So, I

   like, three very different point of views, and all three

   different group thought that the music they were listing

   to and the lifestyle they were #leeting/leet in?# was correct

   and everything else was incorrect, which I thought was

   a bit of a joke, but... The best thing when you're a

   kid is that you... you're always watching. Everybody

   think you just really stupid and they treat you when

   you're in the room that you're not there really. And

   talk their grownup-talk. But you're always being a bit

   of a Richard Attenborough and you're, kind of like,

   "examine the human species" and learning from their

   mistakes, I guess. I kind of realized that musicstyle,

   sort of, doesn't really matter, it's all a question of,

   kind of like, attitude and spirit and... and emotion.



[Deus, Sugarcubes] From the beginning to "...taste the

                   forbidden fruit."



B: The good thing about Reykjavik is...it's got a mentality

   of a little village and because we so recently became

   modern, it's got all the superstitions and the mythology

   of the Middle Ages. We lived in mudhouses till the

   century, very poor. And still believe in major force

   of nature, and nature is the most important thing - but

   at the same time being very cosmopolitan, being a capital

   in Europe, having BMW and mobile telephones. On top of

   everything being obsessed by information and literature

   and having all the books you want and...and having the

   extremes, like nature and everybody knowing eachother,

   the intimatecy of a village and the isolation. But still

   having all...if you wanna like, cocktail...and like,

   you know, modern lifestyle and television, and a car...



L: Modern discos?



   ...modern discos, drugs and rock'n'roll, you can have

   that as well. And then basicly I hooked up with, I mean,

   all the people that are in to the same things, obviously

   in such a small place, they...[at] one point got to meet

   eachother. And when I was 14 or 15, this group of people

   had kind of started #a# label in Iceland, indie label.

   Not printing #our# indie music though, but basicly everything

   else, exept Michael Jackson, jazz, rock music, rap, reggae,

   whatever, everything that's not...you know...commercial

   pop. And then later we would start a label that put out

   books and films, exhibitions.



[CLIP]



B: And we were very early thought of as being...trouble,

   basicly. Sort of enfants terribles, or whatever you

   call it, sort of...angry teenagers that refuse to grow

   up and...I don't think we were angry, we were very happy

   actually, very positive, and had a great time. Very quickly

   all the critics in Iceland went like hated us, and call us

   "bad taste". So we basicly desided to call our label

   "Bad Taste". Just face the facts that that's what we

   were, that's what we gonna be then.



[Regina, Sugarcubes] Beginning to end of second chorus.



B: We were hanging out a lot together and we disided to form

   a silly band to play at party, which we would call the

   "Sugarcubes", it was like the most silly name we could

   think of, a bit like "Monkeys" or something. We were just

   being a bit, sort of, opposite the serious band we were

   in before. Kind of being a bit like...like get a fresh

   of...fresh air and go like la la la la la la, getting a

   bit sort of pop, ABBA, listening a lot to ABBA-records

   and Boney M and kind of like "Yes, that's what it's all

   about" "Fuck this sort of... you know, existentialism

   and all those isms, and art, fuck that pretentiousness

   like, let's be happy", you know. And of course, the most

   silly thing we're ever done in our lifes, is the most,

   ironicly, is the thing that's been taken most seriously

   by media.



[CLIP]



B: We started handing out "Bad Taste"-awards and announcing

   people. And everybody went really upset in Iceland. Like

   the head of Icelandic tele[vision] was always...showed

   arty-pretentious operas, they were really horrible, but

   just because they were "art" nobody would criticize it,

   you know.



[CLIP]



B: Bad Taste was the most important thing for us - Sugarcubes

   wasn't. Sugarcubes was a way to travel around the world

   to meet other people, and to get money to put in Bad Taste.

   So most of the money we earned, we put in Bad Taste to

   put out more books, more records... the whole thing. And...



L: And having fun?



B: And having fun, obviously! I mean, I don't have to say 

   that when you with your best friends, travelling around

   America, getting free airflights, free hotels, free food,

   free...drinks, and all you have to do is pretend you're

   a rock band!



[Hit, Sugarcubes] From the beginning to the beginning of Einar's

                  part.



B: I've written songs since I was five and I could've put

   out an album ages ago that only had my music on, that was

   not the problem, but... The reson why I didn't put my own

   album out earlier is because it just was against everything

   I believed in. It was what I consider being very very 

   selfish, being very, sort of...narcissistic, if you want,

   and...and I just didn't have the need to do it, because

   I wanted to learn. And I wanted to...meet all this, have

   this...intimate, over the top, obsessive, intimate music-

   relationships with people. And the more different they

   were to me, the better. If they were like the opposite

   of me - that was brilliant! 'Cause that meant I could

   show them all these things they never heard about and

   they could show me all these things I never heard about. 

   And it would be so exiting and that's kind of what keeps

   me alive and what turns me on.



[CLIP]



B: I'd be lying if I wouldn't admit that I realized in

   alot of things I'm a bit, sort of, stupid and slow. And

   it takes me about, kind of like, 10 years later than my

   fellow girlfriends in, kind of like...finding out about

   certain things, and...I would basicly say that, you know,

   I'm a bit, sort of stupid and a bit sort of slow, you know,

   and... I think it's lot to do with my...inability to...

   take in and learn about things with my brain. I kind of

   have to do it with my senses, is kind of all I got, really.

   And when you do things like that it takes ages, you know.

   And I, for example #like#, no way I can drive a car. I had

   a car for one year and I think I crashed it, sort of...

   twice a month. And it's just to clever for me, you know,

   it's got no logic, traffic - just got no logic for me.



[Human behaviour, Björk] From the beginning to 1:45 into the

                          video.



L: Say something, please, about "Venus As A Boy". Did you

   have someone particular in mind, a person like Brett Anderson

   of Suede maybe?



B: Not really. It was actually my friend...who I wrote it

   about...but then again... things aren't that simple, you

   know, it's...not trying to pretend it's really deep or

   something saying like that but...of cause it's about several

   things...



[CLIP]



B: To tell you the truth, I don't understand anymore than

   you do.



L: I think it's a very sexy song.



B: Ye? [Björk's got a big smile and the song starts in the

   background.]



L: Yes. Definitly one of the most sexy on the album.



B: You should see the video, I'm frying an egg, so...

   very sexy.



L: We will actually see the video right after this.

   [Björk bursts into laughter and covers her mouth with her

    hands.]



[Venus As A Boy, Björk] A bit into the song onto were she's

                         reflecting the light with the spatula

                         in front of her mouth. [It's 1:35

                         into the song.]



L: Would you like to play in India...with your new band?



B: In India?



L: Ye.



B: I love to. I not gonna be able to do that though, because

   of finacial reasons I guess and again - time, there's no

   time. I don't really wanna play...horrible place like Germany,

   you know what I mean? Or Europe in a way, because that's

   what I know already. I wouldn't mind playing, doing a tour

   like India... Guatemala and Thailand. I would be right on

   that if it be suggested to me, but...unforturnatly we have

   to be practicaly and finacialy aware aswell. I mean, not

   be too, must be too much Utopia, you know. And that's why

   I play Europe and USA.



[Play Dead, Björk] The whole song, but with some picture-

                    interruptions of names of the people

                    involved in this program.




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